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Food: Pizza guide
A few months ago, we were asked about our favorite food, pizza was the winner! But a few months later, Alex_Muc decided to create the Sushi guide as nobody mentioned.
The topic initiated an active discussion, one of the comments was from Emilie_B , asking for my home made sushi. I don't really make my own sushi, but I do make home made pizza. And after Emilie found out about that, she has been pushing me to create a guide. So here it is Emilie! It took me 4 months to not forget to take pictures, but I did it
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Note: I make my pizzas in a real pizza oven, so I don’t know the exact timing for a regular oven.
From what I understand, the main difference is how long you bake it.
It’s always a good idea to get a pizza stone for your oven – it helps you get a crispier and better-baked crust.
This recipe uses flour suitable for a long fermentation, so it’s a “make the dough today, eat tomorrow” kind of deal (sorry!).
🍅Ingredients for the dough
Flour
The type of flour depends on how long you want to let it rise.
The longer the rise, the lighter and more flavorful the crust.
You can do a short 1-hour rise, but personally, I find those pizzas a bit heavy on the stomach.
Check the W value of your flour – this indicates the strength of the flour:
- W 150–200: Weak flour, suitable for cakes, cookies, or quick-rising doughs
- W 200–260: All-purpose, great for bread and pizza
- W 260–300: Strong flour, ideal for Neapolitan pizza or rustic breads
- W 320+: For rising times longer than 48 hours, great for poolish or biga starters
More info: Understanding W Numbers in Flour – Crusters Guide - Crusters
As for brands, I recommend Caputo – it’s available in different W values:
- Doppio Zero – for less than 8 hours rise (W 230)
- Pizzeria – for more than 8 hours rise (W 260)
Other Ingredients
- Salt
- Water at room temperature
- Instant yeast
- KitchenAid with dough hook (or your own hands)
- Flat work surface (countertop, stainless steel, or marble)
- A digital scale accurate to tenths (e.g., 0.5 g / 0.02 oz)
- Semola flour – coarser than regular flour; easy to brush off dough, used for shaping
- Dough box or plastic container for rising
- Should be sealable, or covered with a damp cloth
- Avoid stainless steel or glass, as they take longer to reach room temperature after refrigeration
Ingredients for toppings
Use whatever you like, but here’s what I used for two pizzas:
- Pizza sauce
- I recommend Mutti pizza sauce, if available where you live. It has that authentic Italian pizza flavor. Fantastic.
- Parmesan cheese (Parmigiano Reggiano, stronger in flavor)
- Grated mild cheese (my wife insists on “normal” cheese on pizza 😄)
- Canned tuna
- Cow’s milk mozzarella
- Onion
- Arugula (rocket)
- Smoked chicken
- Mozzarela (pull it apart and place it on piece of kitchen paper to let it dry it bit
👨🍳Instructions for Making the Dough
I use the PizzApp+ to get the right ratio of ingredients. See the screenshot for my current preference.
A higher water percentage gives tastier dough, but it’s also trickier to handle. The amount of dough also determines pizza size (if you flatten it nicely):
- Around 250 g (8.8 oz) → about 30 cm (12 in) pizza
- Around 330 g (11.6 oz) → about 40 cm (16 in) pizza
I use 235 g (8.3 oz) – just right for us and gives a bit of wiggle room in the oven
Steps
Pour the correct amount of water into a bowl.
Add the yeast and mix until it’s mostly dissolved.
Weigh the flour, add salt, and combine everything in the bowl with the water.
Start kneading, either with a KitchenAid or by hand.
On the KitchenAid, use the dough hook on speed 2 for 8–12 minutes, depending on the flour quantity.
The dough should no longer be too sticky.
When you press it, the dent should slowly spring back; when you stretch it, it should feel elastic – not too much though, or you’ve overkneaded.
Remove the dough from the bowl and place it on your work surface (sprinkle some semola underneath if needed).
Let it rest for 15 minutes under a slightly damp towel so it doesn’t dry out.
Divide the dough into portions of the right weight (e.g., 235 g / 8.3 oz each) and form balls.
Use the stretch and fold technique: stretch the dough, fold it, turn 90°, and repeat (max 4 times).
Form a ball so the dough tightens up.
Check out a video tutorial for a good visual example, like this one: How to stretch and fold pizza dough
Once the balls are ready, place them in your dough box or plastic containers.
Let them sit for 2 hours at room temperature.
Then move them to the fridge.
This stops the rising process and starts fermentation, which improves flavor and digestion.
If the fermentation is too short, the pizza feels heavy on the stomach.
Take the dough out of the fridge 5–6 hours before baking, letting it slowly come back to room temperature.
The dough should know have almost doubled in size and is now ready to be turned into pizza!
Instructions for Making Your Pizza
Turn on your oven. I use an Ooni Koda 12 pizza oven, set it to full blast to heat it up properly.
Shaping Your Pizza
Here’s where many people go wrong: don’t use a rolling pin!
It presses all the air out of the dough. You’ll end up with a flat pancake – might as well make a sandwich instead 😁
Take a dough ball from the box and place it on your work surface with enough semola underneath.
Use your fingers to press the center down and make a small dent, gradually widening it without touching the edges. Work from the center outward.
Once it’s wide enough, use the palms of your hands – but make sure the center doesn’t get too thin.
Again, watch a video tutorial for technique examples, like this one: The easy way to stretching a pizza - YouTube
Once you’ve shaped a nice round (or somewhat round😅) pizza, place it on your pizza peel. Brush off excess semola gently.
🍕Topping Your Pizza
Start with the pizza sauce – spread it with a spoon, but avoid touching the edges. That’s how you get those nice puffed crusts. 2–3 tablespoons of sauce is plenty.
More might seem tasty, but makes the pizza too wet and heavy (trust me, I’ve been there ).
Add your toppings!
Finish with cheese so it melts nicely and protects the ingredients underneath from burning.
Our pizzas this time:
Pizza 1
Tomato sauce
Tuna
Onion
Grated mild cheese
Pizza 2
Tomato sauce
Smoked chicken
Mozzarella
Parmesan (Parmigiano Reggiano)
🔥Baking
The stone in your pizza oven should be around 350–400 °C (660–750 °F).
Slide your pizza smoothly into the oven. Turn the knob at the back of the oven down to about halfway – this prevents the top from cooking faster than the bottom.
Wait 30 seconds, then rotate the pizza a quarter turn. Repeat until it’s gone full circle.
Your pizza is now ready! Time to eat! 🍴
Or, if you’d like to keep peace at home, put your partner’s pizza in next and repeat the steps. 😆Between pizzas, crank the gas back up to keep the stone hot.
Finishing Touches
Sprinkle a bit of oregano on top.
Add some arugula for a fresh finish and enjoy your pizza!
22 Replies
- Emilie_BGoogle Community Manager2 months ago
WOW Michel!!!
Thank you so much for this fantastic guide - it was so interesting to read and I've learned a lot (I've made pizza at home with friends and definitely made a few mistakes, though I swear I've never used a rolling pin on the dough!) 😁
I have no regrets about nagging you to write this guide; it's a work of art!
And now, I want pizza 🍕
- MichelLevel 4.0: Ice Cream Sandwich2 months ago
Haha thanks!
- Alex_MucLevel 3.0: Honeycomb2 months ago
Wow! I'll try to follow the guide next time I make pizza. In my standard recipe, I use a little less water, but add a little olive oil. I'm already curious to see what the difference will be. 😀
I was surprised by the W values. I had never heard or seen them before in Germany. I always buy special flour and paid attention to the protein amount. I have used Type405 in the past, but you definitely notice differences with higher protein/gluten content. If you don't have more precise information, a flour with 12g protein / 100g should be quite suitable.
- MichelLevel 4.0: Ice Cream Sandwich2 months ago
I've been told that the olive oil doesn't add anything when baking it with a pizza oven, but when baking it in a standard oven it should help with flavour and a crispy crust. Good luck!
I wasn't aware of W values as well, a whole new world opened up when I started making my own pizza. I keep trying new things and i'm still not satisfied. 🤣
- Emilie_BGoogle Community Manager2 months ago
I guess it's a process until you find the exact ratio you like so, keep experimenting, I say!
There are so many types of crusts as well! Do you have a favourite, by the way?
I think the best pizza I've ever had was in Northern Italy, with a thin and crispy crust, not too much tomato sauce, some lovely ham and fresh mozzarella di buffala 😍
- jeremyLevel 3.0: Honeycomb2 months ago
Wow, really nice guide, I guess an Oven is now on my shopping list. Is there an Android oven with Android Enterprise support?
- Emilie_BGoogle Community Manager2 months ago
Not yet 😝 Maybe something to develop in the future haha
If you do attempt to make your own pizza, though, let us know and share a picture over here 👀
- MichelLevel 4.0: Ice Cream Sandwich2 months ago
I'm seeing options here, i'll investigate the option to add Android to the Ooni 🤣. There are meat sticks with an Android bluetooth stick, so Android slowly claiming space in the kitchen as well.
I see a future for managed kitchen devices, why not at the pizza oven in there.
- FloLevel 2.0: Eclair2 months ago
Great Job !
I am interested, do you have a pizza menu to choose ? Where can we order ? 😀- MichelLevel 4.0: Ice Cream Sandwich2 months ago
I'm more than happy shipping it to you, within Europe I can guarantee a delivered in 24h policy. Outside of Europe could take op to 30 business days, depending on type of transport. By plane is more expensive than ship but you will get a fresher pizza.
- MichelLevel 4.0: Ice Cream Sandwich2 months ago
Its really worth the money! Its so much better than a regular oven.
- BenMccLevel 2.2: Froyo2 months ago
What a fabulous write up (anyone else hungry now)!
While making sushi was new to me, pizza has been something I have been doing for a long while - in fact Saturday night is my pizza night. While I don't have much to add to Michel writeup I can add some info basic on the fact I just use a domestic oven. The dough needs to be slightly drier but I have found this works well:
For 4 x 12" bases
492ml - water
818g - 00 flour
3g - active dry yeast
24g - salt
Combine and mix as above and let rest for an hour. After that divide into 4 equal balls, shape as above and then either keep them to cook that night or freeze. Yes I make 8 at a time and freeze the extras. To use simply remove from the freezer in the morning and leave covered for the day. Around 2 hours before cooking reshape the ball and let rest for two more hours.
About 25 mins before cooking put the oven on at a max setting (250c for me) and stretch the pizza as shown in the above videos.
This evening it was tomato sauce (Mutti as above), BBQ sauce, mozzarella, mushrooms and peperoni! Takes a bit longer than with a pizza oven but still just 10 mins.
Enjoy!
- Emilie_BGoogle Community Manager2 months ago
Wow BenMcc - you were not kidding when you said you were also into the pizza making hobby/business 😋
I think we're about this close👌 to having to organise an Android Enterprise Customer Community Pizza making event in 2026 - we should probably organise this in Italy as well, for consistency...
In the meantime, I'm definitely craving pizza even more now!
- MichelLevel 4.0: Ice Cream Sandwich2 months ago
Italy? Pizza? Community event? You've got my attention.
- LizzieGoogle Community Manager2 months ago
Sorry I'm just catchup on this amazing post and discussion. Wowzer! Love this Michel - thank you so much for sharing your pizza skills with us all.
BenMcc, very cool to see your pizzas too.
I wanted to get your feelings on base sauces, are you always a fan of tomato bases? I saw Ben you have put some bbq sauce on yours too?
During covid, I also made some pizzas on the bbq (without a pizza oven), mainly because it felt like a time when you would try these types of things, but our oven also broke in the middle of it, so we didn't have a lot of choice. I found the hardest part making sure that the base didn't get too burnt - I wondered is this a similar difficulty with pizza ovens or is this not an issue?
- MichelLevel 4.0: Ice Cream Sandwich2 months ago
Pizza on the barbecue is nice too! Did that before but it become very very crunchy pizza's. The bottom was done but the top wasn't even hot. My bbq wasn't fit for pizza making i guess.
A pizza oven gets very very hot, warmer than most barbuecues can. So yes, its a risk. But the whole pizza is done within 30 to 60 seconds. Push it in, wait 30 seconds to make sure the bottom is not soft and rotate it over the next 20 seconds or so. And done!
What kind of pizza did you make on the barbecue? Do you still do it?
I'm a tomato saus kind of guy. Can't eat pizza without it (yes, i've tried, its called pizza bianca, not my taste for a dinner pizza more for a side dish).
- Emilie_BGoogle Community Manager2 months ago
I know it's been days but, I was wondering if you had to keep your pizza oven outdoors due to it reaching really high temperatures...and if it's outside, how far away from the house do you keep it?
Speaking of sauces, have you ever tried a Flammekueche? A good one can be completely heavenly 😊
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